Pamela Ayo Yetunde

Pamela Ayo Yetunde

PAMELA AYO YETUNDE, J.D., Th.D. is a Community Dharma Leader in the Insight Meditation tradition. She teaches pastoral care and counseling and has taught at University of the West, United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities, and Upaya Institute and Zen Center. Ayo has written for Buddhadharma, Lion’s Roar, Religions, and Buddhist-Christian Studies. She is the author of Object Relations, Buddhism and Relationality in Womanist Practical Theology and Buddhist-Christian Dialogue, U.S. Law, and Womanist Theology for Transgender Spiritual Care.

Pamela Ayo Yetunde

PAMELA AYO YETUNDE, J.D., Th.D. is a Community Dharma Leader in the Insight Meditation tradition. She teaches pastoral care and counseling and has taught at University of the West, United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities, and Upaya Institute and Zen Center. Ayo has written for Buddhadharma, Lion’s Roar, Religions, and Buddhist-Christian Studies. She is the author of Object Relations, Buddhism and Relationality in Womanist Practical Theology and Buddhist-Christian Dialogue, U.S. Law, and Womanist Theology for Transgender Spiritual Care.

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Offer Your Fruit to Interfaith Dialogue
Reflections from Pamela Ayo Yetunde, author of Casting Indra’s Net
For all the wonderful things people think Buddhism is about, I believe Buddhist practitioners remain under-resourced when it comes to interfaith (and by this I also mean interreligious) leadership and dialogue.

Many things are said about Buddhism: it’s a world religion, it’s a way of life, it’s a philosophy, it’s a set of practices, it’s a set of ethics and it’s a psychology. People say it’s about mindfulness, meditation, chanting, and compassion. I agree with all these perspectives, and I’d like to add one more—Buddhism is about interfaith dialogue. Even though many non-Buddhists read Pema Chödrön, even though the Dalai Lama publicly engages in interfaith dialogues, even though Thich Nhat Hanh wrote about Buddhist-Christian dialogue, urging Buddhist converts to embrace, rather than mask, their root religious traditions, given the many Unitarian Universalists who practice Buddhism, despite books written by many scholars about Buddhists being engaged with people from other traditions, even though there is a Society for Buddhist-Christian Studies, and the Parliament of the World’s Religions, for all the wonderful things people think Buddhism is about, I believe Buddhist practitioners remain under-resourced when it comes to interfaith (and by this I also mean interreligious) leadership and dialogue. Meeting former Vice President Al Gore at an Interfaith America event brought to light this widening opportunity for engaged Buddhists. I wrote Casting Indra’s Net, using wisdom from Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and other traditions, to support the rich dialogical opportunities before us.

Are you open to preparing yourself to engage in interfaith dialogue as the Buddha was challenged to do?

I met Gore at an Interfaith America panel presentation by Black religious leaders on environmental activism in Washington, D.C. at the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture. Sixteen years ago, I saw David Guggenheim’s 2006 documentary about Gore’s mission to educate the public about climate change and catastrophe in the documentary An Inconvenient Truth. In 2007, Gore was the co-winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. There I was, all those years later, shaking Vice President Nobel Peace Prize-winning Al Gore’s hand, about to engage in a panel discussion about Black religious leadership on climate change, knowing I have focused much of my religious leadership in pastoral care and counseling and human rights advocacy, feeling somewhat unworthy of the task ahead of me. When our hands touched, my head full of projections of Gore’s stature, global impact, and his “heroic bodhisattva perseverance,” it was as if the warmth of his big heart, through his big hands, melted some of the wax that had built up around my foci. He asked nothing of me, but I felt I needed to confess to him, and I did by saying, “I’ll do better.” He smiled and nodded, and then I thanked him.  After the panel discussion, one small change I made right away was to alter the mission for Buddhist Justice Reporter to include environmental justice, then I reflected on a previous conversation I had with climate activist and Loka Initiative Director Dekila Chugyalpa that was reposted by Kristin Barker, co-founder and director of One Earth Sangha. I began to think about Roshi Joan Halifax’s involvement with Jane Fonda and Fire Drill Fridays. Even as I write this essay, parts of Northern California are being hammered by severe and historic storms and flooding while members of the U.S. House of Representatives, a body poised to influence the negotiation of international agreements to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, is bitterly embroiled in a form of mobbery and what I call PTIS, post-traumatic insurrection syndrome. How can we support our wounded Congress to place their healing and our survival as their top priorities?

After I reflected on the panel conversation with Black and religiously-intersecting-identified activists (we are complex beings), I remembered many times I’ve been in interfaith dialogues as the only Buddhist practitioner, or many times I’ve heard interreligious panelists where no Buddhist was present. In the epoch we are in, marked in part by xenophobia, white rage, the deadly COVID-19 pandemic, election denial, and a coup attempt, I will proclaim that this is also the epoch for a rise in bodhisattva responses. One such collective response with effective leadership needs to be Buddhists participating in interfaith dialogue regularly and dare I say, religiously. Are you open to preparing yourself to engage in interfaith dialogue as the Buddha was challenged to do?

Right Listening involves humility, curiosity, the ability to try on different perspectives, an appreciation for difference, a love of wisdom, respect, and an attitude of non-harm and non-defensiveness.

It is said that after Siddhartha Gautama experienced enlightenment, he contemplated teaching others (who of course weren’t Buddhist) what he had learned on his six-year journey into a dangerous self-abnegating asceticism that led him to eventually proclaim the Middle Way. As he contemplated whether he could teach others what he learned, he thought about the nature of being human and doubted his ability to teach when so many people are unwilling or unable to learn difficult concepts. He felt he had two choices: retreat from humanity forever to practice alone, or engage in the futility of teaching dull-witted folks. Can you imagine being caught in a bind like this? While paralyzed in the dilemma, a heavenly figure reached out to the Buddha to assure him that there were indeed people who would understand what he wanted to teach. The Buddha had faith that this deity knew more about humanity than he did, and it was his faith that led him out of the bind. Two-thousand and six-hundred years later, Buddhism is a world religion with legions of students and teachers worldwide. Now here’s the tricky part.

Interfaith dialogue requires speech (and Buddhists know a lot about Right Speech), but this kind of “dialogue” may be more about listening, Right Listening. But what is Right Listening? As a pastoral counselor, I listen to others regardless of their worldviews and because of their worldviews. For purposes of interfaith dialogue, I suggest that Right Listening involves humility, curiosity, the ability to try on different perspectives, an appreciation for difference, a love of wisdom, respect, and an attitude of non-harm and non-defensiveness. I know that our differences alone do not require a pre-emptive strike against another and when this non-defensiveness and non-offensiveness is perceived, people are more inclined to reveal their authentic selves. Gore evoked in me an authentic expression of regret and commitment, he listened, and I acted.

We should be in a dialogue with each other, for the well-being of us all, despite any aversion we may have to our root tradition or people who don’t think like us.

When I think about meeting Gore and then later in the year our current Vice President Kamala (which means “lotus flower”) Harris, whose mother was a Hindu dharma practitioner, I think about the good that can come and needs to come right now from leaders inspired by care for others, informed by Right Listening and Right Speech. This epoch is also marked with a Christian nationalism no doubt fueled by climate change, as proof of an apocalyptic prophecy that should not and thus cannot be interrupted by mere mortals. We should be in a dialogue with each other, for the well-being of us all, despite any aversion we may have to our root tradition or people who don’t think like us. Why? Our problems are too big to solve by one perspective alone, and that includes a Buddhist perspective.

In many Buddhist traditions, at the end of our time in sangha, we “dedicate the merit” of our practice. If Buddhists continue to talk mostly amongst ourselves because that is what’s most comfortable, then we eat the fruits of our practice just for our own nourishment. Eventually all that fruit just turns to a poisonous sugar. Perhaps in these times, when opportunities for dialogue are opening up and people are looking for Buddhists to participate, we can think about offering the merit of our practices to those in need of deeper connection across our differences, then we offer ourselves, our very bodies, as merit in the cornucopia of worldviews. I can hardly think of anything more delicious.

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Pamela-Ayo-YetundePAMELA AYO YETUNDE, J.D., Th.D. is a Community Dharma Leader in the Insight Meditation tradition. She teaches pastoral care and counseling and has taught at University of the West, United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities, and Upaya Institute and Zen Center. Ayo has written for BuddhadharmaLion’s RoarReligions, and Buddhist-Christian Studies. She is the author of Object Relations, Buddhism and Relationality in Womanist Practical Theology and Buddhist-Christian Dialogue, U.S. Law, and Womanist Theology for Transgender Spiritual Care.

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Culturally Competent Dharma Teaching: Realizing an Ethical Imperative

Black and Buddhist

Commentary on Black and Buddhist: What Buddhism Can Teach Us about Race, Resilience, Transformation, and Freedom

By Pamela Ayo Yetunde 
November 2, 2020

Cheryl and I, like you, live in interlocking and interdependent cultural worlds. We are cis-gender women of African descent living in the U.S. We are Buddhist practitioners and we are also in same-gender-loving relationships. Cheryl is a psychologist and I am a pastoral counselor. We teach in higher education institutions and we also engage in clinical counseling. We write and we advocate. We interact with Buddhists and non-Buddhists, men, and different-gender-loving people. White people and people from other countries make up parts of our families and communities. It is fair to say that our communities are rich, interwoven tapestries of differences and similarities that inform how we teach, how we practice, and how we live. Arguably, we have not had the privilege to avoid being and doing otherwise, but we know many of our peers have used their privilege to avoid working on becoming more culturally-competent teachers. In this essay, we hope to encourage you, no matter your profession or vocation, to use difference to build and sustain yourself, family, and community, but with respect to and for dharma teachers, we encourage you to embrace the belief that working on cultural competency is an ethical imperative that began with the Buddha.

According to a Buddha story, when the Buddha believed he could not teach what he had learned through his awakening because he believed people were not capable of understanding his experience, he created a dichotomy between him and everyone else. He suffered in his dichotomous thinking and thought the way out of his suffering was to seclude himself from others. The impulse towards deep introversion was so painful that a deity appeared to assure him that people would understand. This heavenly intervention encouraged the Buddha, so he proceeded to teach.

The Buddha was afflicted with a cultural incompetency that some Buddhist teachers have also been or are afflicted with—the belief that no one will understand or only certain people will understand what we have experienced—so we talk only to those we believe will understand. Keeping to the familiar is like incarcerating oneself in a pedagogical prison, locking teachers and students into a feedback loop that reifies the culture already in place. But the Buddha, though initially insecure, didn’t stay in place only teaching people he knew—he traveled and listened to others from their cultural contexts.

In the Pali Canon, it is said that the Buddha and his disciples traveled from grove to grove, often encountering people of different belief systems. It is also said that when the Buddha was challenged by someone from a different belief system, he did not brow beat them by consistently repeating the same lessons over and over again until they got it (or left in frustration), but used parables to illustrate a point. These parables, like parables in other traditions, draw on our common humanity—the ability to be empathetic, compassionate, and insightful. When we think about striving towards cultural competency, we need to remember that we all have some things in common, that some things are different, and that each one of us is a unique individual. Many monastic communities create cultures of similarity in dress, customs, and mentality to help deepen an adherent’s spiritual life. Dharma teachers would do well to examine whether the ways they teach lay people are unconsciously (or consciously) promoting sameness and whether promoting sameness serves the ever growing diversity of Buddhist practitioners in the U.S. This dynamic of diversity in the culture of sameness has been under scrutiny for some time.

Buddhist practitioner and religion professor Jan Willis wrote about Buddhism and race in 1996 (or earlier), and also wrote the first edition of Dreaming Me in 2001. Not long ago I (Ayo) heard Zen priest Rev. angel Kyodo williams talk about her book being black: Zen and the Art of Living with Fearlessness and Grace (2000). About being black, Williams said she wanted to invite Black people into Zen communities, but she had to co-author (along with Black and Buddhist contributor Lama Rod Owens (author of Love and Rage (2020), and Dr. Jasmine Syedullah) Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love, and Liberation in 2016 to help Zen and other dharma communities become truly welcoming of Black people. Apparently it takes more than two books, 16 years, and three Black people to realize cultural competency in Buddhist communities. Black and Buddhist contributor Ruth King published Mindful of Race in 2018 and founded the Mindful of Race Institute in 2020. Think about these authors, titles, and initiatives from a cultural competency perspective. In decades of Black Buddhist writers coming in and out of dharma communities, there was and to our knowledge still is no sangha-wide imperative that dharma teachers be culturally competent in their teaching. Could it be that the dharma is perceived as asking us to check our culture at the dharma gates? Do dharma leaders see themselves as dharma gate keepers, keeping another’s culture from disturbing the peace of mind practitioners come for when they gather for sangha? It depends on who you ask.

Dharma teacher pioneer Larry Yang, author of Awakening Together in 2017, co-wrote “Making the Invisible, Visible” in 2000 and it remains a relevant resource. Zen priest and editor Hilda Gutierrez Baldoquin published essays in Dharma, Color, and Culture: New Voices in Western Buddhism, 2004, and it remains a relevant resource. Black and Buddhist contributor, Sebene Selassie, our favorite “nerdy Black immigrant tomboy Buddhist weirdo” makes the case for belonging in her 2020 book, You Belong, but belonging is always supported by a teacher’s radical acceptance of a student’s culture.

At least from the late 1990s to now when we are releasing Black and Buddhist: What Buddhism Can Teach Us About Race, Resilience, Transformation and Freedom, dharma teachers across the board still do not have an imperative for being culturally competent, even though it is said that the Buddha attempted to be culturally astute. What might wrapping ourselves in the Buddha’s teachings, as Zen practitioners chant, look like as we struggle with our own beliefs that only certain people will understand the dharma? Perhaps a dose of pedagogical humility.

We are not the historical Buddha, burdened with an experience whereby we dichotomize to such a degree that we need a deity to save us. There is nothing we know from practice that no one else can know. No one’s culture precludes them from awakening, and as Zenju Earthlyn Manuel states in her book The Way of Tenderness: Awakening Through Race, Sexuality, and Gender (2015), culture is a dharma gate, and being skilled in dharma teaching within the cultural dharma gate(s) that people bring to sangha can only really happen if we, as dharma teachers, are willing to be dharma students to those who enter our sanghas. Yes, we must flip the switch and be, paradoxically, students as we teach.

We live in interlocking and interdependent cultural worlds. We interact with Buddhists, non-Buddhists, and people of multiple religious identities and belonging. White people and people from other countries make up parts of our selves, families, and communities. We eschew our privileges to permanently segregate ourselves to dwell in the comfort of undisrupted cultural feedback loops because doing so doesn’t produce liberation, or freedom, or joy. In fact, undisrupted cultural feedback loops produce cultural ignorance. Many individuals for decades have advocated for cultural competency in teaching. They have met many times, created resources that are still available and instructive, written articles, essays, and books that are still available and relevant, and have convened in small and large venues.  The next logical step in the creation of a mahasangha (Buddhist communities across traditions) that truly embraces the actuality of awakening through culture would be for communities to insist that their teachers and teachers in training be on the path to cultural competency through pedagogical humility. We hope Black and Buddhist: What Buddhism Can Teach Us about Race, Resilience, Transformation, and Freedom, will serve as another tool toward cultural competency in Buddhist communities.

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PAMELA AYO YETUNDE, J.D., Th.D. is a Community Dharma Leader in the Insight Meditation tradition. She teaches pastoral care and counseling and has taught at University of the West, United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities, and Upaya Institute and Zen Center. Ayo has written for BuddhadharmaLion's Roarreligions, and Buddhist-Christian Studies. She is the author of Object Relations, Buddhism and Relationality in Womanist Practical Theology, and Buddhist-Christian Dialogue, U.S. Law, and Womanist Theology for Transgender Spiritual Care.

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